Can you do a NO DOC Loan?

Finding solutions for our clients that is the key and not merely quoting Rates!

A lady called me up last week and she wants to get Pre-Qualified for a mortgage. She selling her house and buying another for a little less since they cannot afford the mortgage.

Looking into the situation a little further I came up With an entire different picture.

She has an interest only mortgage now and she is barley making the full payments on it. Her income is $2600 a month and the mortgage liability is about $3500.

I mentioned to the client that she will not qualify for a mortgage she is looking to get since her income is to low. So I got response something like this

Can you do a NO DOC Loan?

NO DOC In No Solution for not having any income.

I get that allot from clients that self prescribe themselves solutions that are in no way a solution just a temporary band aid. Like refinancing into an option arm program to hibernate from the mortgage payments.

No I said to my client, you cannot pay more then 42% of your monthly Income. income can be supplemented by having a rental income but you cannot go above that line Either no doc or full Doc.

However if you are above 62 years old you can qualify for a reverse mortgage and can have a mortgage without any payment for as long as you live in the house. you can have that on a purchase and on a refinance.

Wow the client said I never heard of that!

Comments

This is why the mortgage business is in trouble, because of people like this who get loans they can not afford. The LO's who take these loans helped these people get into this situation.
Posted by Connecticut FHA LOANS,CT VA Loans, CHFA CT First Time Home Buyers, CHFA, FHA, VA (www.LeoLends.com: CT Low Rate Mortgages) over 2 years ago
Reverse mortgages are so expensive. I'm really not sure anyone should be promoting them until the fees come down.
Posted by Simon Conway (Orlando Area Real Estate Services) over 2 years ago

It's amazing that people continue to misuse loan programs for customers.  Kudo's to you for not doing a loan that doesn't make sense.  As a fellow mortgage professional we know that No Doc, Stated, No Asset, etc.... loan programs are for those people who are usually self employed and cannot disclose their true assets due to taxes.

Posted by Cape Coral Real Estate Scott Slocum & Associates 239-340-1384 (Florida Future Realty Inc.) over 2 years ago
These kind of buyers will drive you up a tree in the short run.. Some can be converted, but most will waste your time!
Posted by Main Line Real Estate - Christopher Benedict (RE/MAX Main Line) over 2 years ago

I have to disagree with Simon, RevMtg are excellent (HUD backed anyway) and if you take out the required Mortgage Insurance, they are in line with most any other loan.  But the insurance is a serious and excellent (and of course required) component, because IF the homeowner lives long enough, the loan value could exceed the property value.  This insurance will keep the homeowner & their heirs from being burdened by such an expense.  Of course, statistically this will not be a problem, but it will be a problem sometimes, and that is what insurance is for.  I know this is a simplistic view, but it is accurate.

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Posted by Ronald Gillis, CNSA Southwest Florida Notaries, Port Charlotte, 941-7-NOTARY (Southwest Florida Notaries (Mortgage Notary Signing Agent)) over 2 years ago
I know it makes them mad when they cannot get what they want in the ever changing world.
Posted by Susan Trombley Broker/Realtor Raleigh, Cary, Wake Forest, Youngsville (Trombley Real Estate) over 2 years ago
Ronald - my point is the fees - not the insurance. Unless something has changed dramatically recently, the fees for reverse mortgages are very high.
Posted by Simon Conway (Orlando Area Real Estate Services) over 2 years ago

Right that It makes them mad, but we where never regarded as professionals. We where just mortgage executioners, they told us what they wanted and we had to deliver that or lose the deal.

I disagree with Simon that it shouldn't be suggested utill cost comes down but i do agree that it is a Bit pricey. However the consumer does not feel it in most cases. they make no payments they will feel it in the LTV though!

Thanks

Posted by Joel Silberstein Brooklyn NY Certified Mortgage Specialis (The Silberstein Group - Brooklyn NY Mortgage Planning Team) over 2 years ago
My man Joel. Stepping up to the plate and telling it like it is! We live is a gotta have it no matter what the cost world. Good for you and a great suggestion on an alternate product!
Posted by Tim Davis (Titan Home Loans) over 2 years ago

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